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Reply #25 on: May 14, 2018, 11:19:46 AM

I honestly don't know what to think, the 5 games coming up to OU are, Maryland, Tulsa, USC, TCU, and K State.

You'll beat Tulsa for sure!  USC-West and MD are kind of wild cards and I have no idea how good they'll be this year, but I think y'all will likely split those games.  TCU will be good (as always under Patterson).  K-state is a toss up.  zero-u will likely win the big xii (or at least be in the top-3 of the conf). 

I see the big xii shaking out like this:

1-3: tcu, ou, osu...in no particular order
4-5 k-st & wva (no particular order)
6-7 tech & tu (no particular order)
8-9 isu then Baylor (in that order)
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The middle of the conf (4-6) is really up for grabs and one of the teams may be able to jump into the top-3 if things go right.  The bottom of the conf (8-10) is pretty much set, but it's possible isu breaks into the middle (perhaps even Baylor, but that's a stretch).  It's an early guess and we'll see how it shakes out. 

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Reply #26 on: May 14, 2018, 12:28:39 PM

You'll beat Tulsa for sure!  USC-West and MD are kind of wild cards and I have no idea how good they'll be this year, but I think y'all will likely split those games.  TCU will be good (as always under Patterson).  K-state is a toss up.  zero-u will likely win the big xii (or at least be in the top-3 of the conf). 

I see the big xii shaking out like this:

1-3: tcu, ou, osu...in no particular order
4-5 k-st & wva (no particular order)
6-7 tech & tu (no particular order)
8-9 isu then Baylor (in that order)
10 ku

The middle of the conf (4-6) is really up for grabs and one of the teams may be able to jump into the top-3 if things go right.  The bottom of the conf (8-10) is pretty much set, but it's possible isu breaks into the middle (perhaps even Baylor, but that's a stretch).  It's an early guess and we'll see how it shakes out. 



Maybe I'm nuts, but I see ISU being the next "WTF, did Hell freeze over?" overachieving team in the B12.  I like that they keep getting 1-2 impossible wins each year and they might get a year soon where it all breaks loose and falls where they need it to to get 10+ wins.
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Reply #27 on: May 15, 2018, 11:07:17 AM

Maybe I'm nuts, but I see ISU being the next "WTF, did Hell freeze over?" overachieving team in the B12.  I like that they keep getting 1-2 impossible wins each year and they might get a year soon where it all breaks loose and falls where they need it to to get 10+ wins.

They might.  If k-st & wva have down years, I could see isu passing up tech and tu to jump in the top-5 of the conf.  I don't see it being a long-term trend, though...more like a 1 (maybe 2) year deal before the coach becomes a trendy pick and moves on to another team. 
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Reply #28 on: May 16, 2018, 09:05:17 PM

ISU was playing solid ball all year. They came up short a couple of times due to just being outmanned. Needless to say I got one hell of a laugh out of them dropping OU at their house.
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Reply #29 on: May 17, 2018, 08:21:37 AM

They might.  If k-st & wva have down years, I could see isu passing up tech and tu to jump in the top-5 of the conf.  I don't see it being a long-term trend, though...more like a 1 (maybe 2) year deal before the coach becomes a trendy pick and moves on to another team.  
Yeah, that's the main problem is how long they can keep the coach and what his successor is like when they do lose him.  Surprisingly, they're already in the top 5 of the B12, as they tied for 4th place last year although it was a 4-way tie.!  They beat OU in freaking Norman, Tceh in Lubbock, TCU, and Baylor (meh) in Waco!  Every loss they had except the horns was 7 points or less and that one was 17-7.  Sounds like they've already gotten their foot in the door.
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Reply #30 on: May 17, 2018, 09:33:49 PM

It's hard to imagine a path where they stay good for an extended period. But it happened for K-State!
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Reply #31 on: May 18, 2018, 07:24:22 AM

And Baylor!  Freakin' Baylor!  If it hadn't been for the whole rape cover-up thing (Art Briles should never be a head coach again), who knows how long they would have gone on being a top-3 team in the B12?
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Reply #32 on: May 18, 2018, 07:50:07 AM

on an un-related note, what is up with the horns finding room in their schedule for Bama, but not A&M.  Seriously?  That's some BS.
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Reply #33 on: May 19, 2018, 09:19:11 PM

Story is that we asked, and the dates we had wouldn't work for you. I'm sure there is plenty of posturing going on, but I'm sure at some point it will happen.
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Reply #34 on: May 21, 2018, 08:37:36 AM

on an un-related note, what is up with the horns finding room in their schedule for Bama, but not A&M.  Seriously?  That's some BS.

A loss to bama doesn't hurt a team much these days as bama will be expected to win.  In fact, a close loss to bama arguably boosts a team more than it hinders it.  If your only loss is to bama and you win your conf, I can see a playoff spot possibly available.  A loss to another team (like an A&M) would only hurt.  If it's tu, losing to A&M could have other negative ripple effects (recruiting in Texas, for example).

We've beaten this dead horse for awhile now so I won't re-hash it too much.  I don't see A&M and tu playing a regular season game anytime soon (perhaps 10+ years from now).  A bowl game is possible, but there's only so many big xii vs SEC bowls.  The top big xii Texas team is TCU.  Patterson's Frogs have done well in the big xii and I don't see that changing as long as he's there.  Perhaps Herman will do better than Strong vs TCU? 

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Reply #35 on: May 21, 2018, 09:10:26 AM

The landscape by the time we play those games is unknown. Nobody stays on top forever, but Saben is having an excellent run. Likewise, we won't be down forever. I've been to several TX/OU games where we were both top 10 and I remember going to one that wasn't on TV. I think that one could have had something to do with OU cheating (again), but neither team was worthy of the airtime. Same could apply here. If we were playing tomorrow though... I'd hate it.

Patterson is probably the best coach they ever had, but the magic has come from their OC as of late. I could see them having a down year in 2018, but they do seem to make their system work for them.

As for us playing, I think we would almost have to meet in the playoffs. SEC had a chance to schedule us in the Texas bowl but passed, so that MAY mean they don't want that to happen (maybe hurt SEC recruiting in Texas?) Can you imagine anything greater than us squaring off for the NC? But again, the playoff committee would try and make that happen in the semi-final for TV ratings. They wouldn't want it to be an all-Texas NC game.
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Reply #36 on: Yesterday at 09:56:21 AM

"Future Schedules" on the athletic dept website shows us with a Home & Home vs. Miami in 2022 & 2023, Notre Dame 2024 & 2025 so you're probably right.
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Reply #37 on: Yesterday at 09:27:21 PM

Both those programs went on long runs of being good/great but now, who knows. How about we both beat 'Bama, we've only ever lost to them once. We could make them fear the teams from Texas!
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Reply #38 on: Today at 06:36:15 AM

Patterson is probably the best coach they ever had, but the magic has come from their OC as of late. I could see them having a down year in 2018, but they do seem to make their system work for them.

Patterson is arguably the best coach in the big xii now that Stoops has gone.  Snyder is another great coach, but I don't see him staying around much longer (he's already retired once).  The jury is out on Herman, but one has to say that he certainly has the potential to be a force in the big xii (which was what he was hired to do). 

The SEC "pool-of-6" bowl game picks has certain rules that they follow.  One of which is that they rotate the teams going to bowls so that a given team does not go to a certain bowl game two years in a row (not sure if they'd allow 2 of 3 years?).  The Texas Bowl is up and down from year to year, hosting 6-7 win teams to hosting 8 win teams....you never know what you're going to get.  It would have been interesting to see A&M face off vs t.u. in the 2017 bowl instead of facing a wake forest team, but I don't see the SEC actively avoiding an A&M vs tu matchup.  The SEC has no problem recruiting in Texas. 

As for the SEC, the west race this year will be good.  I see bama and auburn as the two toughest teams that the Ags will have to face.  I see arky and the MS teams being at the bottom 3 and lsu being just above them.  If things go well, here's how I see the West shaking out:

bama
A&M / auburn
lsu
miss st / ol miss
arky

In the east, it's hard to tell what will happen other than GA finishing on top with usc coming in second.  FL & TN are wild cards with tons of potential.  KU will be dangerous, but not a contender for the East title (kind of like a tx tech of the SEC east).  mizzou will be tough and much like KU.  vandy will suck.  Here's my prediction

ga
usc
fl / tn
ku / mizzou
vandy
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Reply #39 on: Today at 06:21:12 PM

Agreed, the thing about the great coaches long term (and Patterson has had the most and longest term success that TCU has had in decades) they seem to do a great job of hiring assistants. If you work it right, like Urban or Nick, almost nobody will turn you down. But then that's a chicken or the egg type thing.
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